Monday, March 26, 2007

Thought for the Day

Odd post this. Please feel free to disregard ...

… anyway, the other day I was wandering around the newsagent’s waiting for a friend, and I found myself in front of what is usually coyly referred to as the “gentlemen’s interests” section.

Now normally I would glance at the covers only long enough to see where that section ended and the music magazines began, but on this occasion my attention was caught by a cover displaying (and I do mean displaying) a woman who was startlingly non-hirsute in a region traditionally endowed with at least the remnants of a triangular growth. The headline screamed that inside the covers there was more of the same because “we give our readers what they’ve asked for!”

OK, I’m curious. I flick through it. They’re as good as their word – there’s not so much as a suggestion of vegetation in sight. Looked at the next mag. Ditto. And the next. Same. All three of them. Pages and pages of glossy women totally devoid of anything resembling pubic hair.

Now I can understand that women who favour the g-string as being both comfortable and attractive (wrong on both counts in my book, but freedom to choose is all) find the Brazilian profile a practical option, but to remove all trace? Why? Is it for the woman’s own pleasure, or because she feels more attractive when as hairless in the nether regions as a six-year old? Aha - and there we have it – the source of my disturbance.

A woman is a woman. A girl is a girl. A pre-pubescent is a child. Each stage has its physical characteristics. Once you start blurring the edges (excuse) by removing some of them, is there not something a little questionable about the concept behind it? Is the quest for eternal youth now so extreme that we strive for a look that is pre-pubescent?

I noticed breast size was not diminished in any of the pictures; presumably the ideal woman according to their audience was a sort of fantasy hybrid. And speaking of fantasy, I’m not talking about the odd fun experiment, or what any couple may or may not choose to do to suit themselves. Not my business – each to his and her own and good luck to you. No, it was the mass depiction of this look as a sexual ideal that bothered me.

So am I imagining a cultural tendency to creepiness where only a sense of fun exists? Is this less about the cult of youth taken to disturbing extremes than simply the advent of the affordable laser treatment? Is it less of a social concern and more of a natty style trend?

Gentle reader, I ponder.

23 Comments:

Blogger E.L. Wisty said...

"Gentlemen's interests", what a wonderful phrase :-)

I began to think exactly the same as I then found you to write about when I read the first few lines. Another thought that came to my mind was the excessive need for hygiene and cleanliness in the west.

But in the end I'm tending towards thinking that in the porn industry the purpose is simply to bare all, reveal all the bits and pieces as effectively as possible.

1:21 am  
Blogger Vallypee said...

I've never thought of this before, Margie, but you have raised some interesting questions here. On the other hand, women have been shaving their 'bits' for a very long time - I suppose at least since the advent of the short skirt and tan - so you could argue that this is just the obvious next step in the process of the desire to be as smoothly and attractively naked as possible. I find it a tad repulsive myself, but then I also found the shaved head fashion off putting to begin with and I've got used to that now.

However, as the desire to preen and be seen to be well preened is largely driven by a the wish to be attractive to the male of the species (at least that's what these magazines would have us believe!), I think you could have a point in that it might also encourage the unhealthier side of the issue which is that we are all being encouraged to look like pre-pubescent nymphettes, which in turn might encourage .......well, I'm babbling now and I think you've said it all much more succinctly anyway!

1:57 am  
Blogger Dale said...

please excuse me while i make haste to airbrush the most recent photo of myself...

6:25 am  
Blogger Dale said...

we all know where "gentlemans' interests" lie...

6:25 am  
Blogger Dale said...

for pete's sake...we need hair!

6:26 am  
Blogger Dale said...

This post describes the many unnatural - and unobtainable - fashion trends pressed upon the female population these so-called progressive days...

I will make up my own mind thank you very much - and if men don't like it...they can suck it up.

it is a sad truth...this coming from a mother of 2 young girls

6:31 am  
Blogger gypsy noir said...

ahem....guilty as charged..(blush)...pubescent nymphette...lol..thats me!!

7:41 am  
Blogger MargieCM said...

Haha - response! Thank you all for your comments. I was starting to feel a little weird there for a while - is it just me, or ...?

Maria - I agree; your last paragraph probably sums it up. Less is more. And you're right about the Western obsession with sterile cleanliness. Thank goodness those ridiculous "intimate sprays" seem to have disappeared from supermarket shelves now. Bizarre.

Val; perhaps you're right and we'll all get used to the idea, and it'll be no different to women shaving their armpits. But yes, I agree there may be a more tawdry side to it too. And you weren't babbling.

Dale, careful with that airbrush! And darling girl, do you want to rephrase that bit about what men can do if they don't like it? No, don't - it gave me the best laugh I've had all day. Perhaps I have a smutty mind, or maybe it's another of those cultural language things, but I've never heard that expression before.

And yes, having three girls myself (now 13, 15 and 17 by golly), the debate here seems pertinent.

And finally, Gypsy - assuming you haven't discovered the one miracle once-only technique women dream of, what about the regrowth?? Sounds devilish irritating. But then perhaps you really are a late-blossoming 13 after all?

1:51 pm  
Blogger Dan L. said...

MargieCM:

What a mess, eh? I have a wife and four daughters, 16, 17, 20, 21. I have heard almost everything, but not yet, I know.

..and, we have a Grandson, the wonderful little boy of joy...

He came with the whole story, that goes....on.

I am a man (duh), and am loved as such in my home...A testament...there are REAL men...really, I hope, as I see myself.

--Dan L.

4:02 pm  
Blogger MargieCM said...

Yay Dan! I suspect real men don't need to be troubled by such frippery and attention to detail.

I must pop over to yours and say hello properly.

4:34 pm  
Blogger Dale said...

Must be a Canadianism, Margie!

suck it up = deal with it

12:54 am  
Blogger gypsy noir said...

well yes..i have a round birthday pending..hence all birthdays cancelled forever!!..in my head i am still that teenage innocent girl..innocent???..
regrowth..hmmm??...

2:00 am  
Blogger grace said...

well, things are a bit strange these days, is my only comment on this. .....

3:44 pm  
Blogger Vallypee said...

Funny to think that in the 60's the measure of being fashinable was how MUCH hair people had, and now it's the reverse!

Hope you had a good wet weekend, dear!

4:12 pm  
Blogger grace said...

glad we all around the world can keep you in the loop. I have not been to an Attic Jam, missed them here in the US, so I feel have missed them completety. Fortunate to have Directv for the SXSW with Rachel & Pete, and you guys didn't have Satellite radio over there?? Thanks for dropping by xxx, how are things down there? have been there many times, love it there!!

2:38 pm  
Blogger Nabonidus said...

Er...
What a time to come by! lolol
I was curious, I liked some of your posts at Pete's, etc. And
Oh boy! What a conversation going on here! ;)
Um, not sure how to respond to this,but I do feel compelled- being from the US, I concede that we are perhaps overly concerned with cleanliness and hygiene. I actually prefer it that way but since I actually prefer ingrowns less, I have been slacking these days. It's also not logical to keep it this way permanently, I have found, btw. Unless you want to spend half your life with tweezers at one of those salons. Or doing it yourself (my case)Ingrowns, etc. Because obviously it's the worst hair possible for doing this.Plucking, shaving, etc.
I can't believe I wrote this. But I felt it was important to be the counter view but also for for those thinking of this to try think of the realities. It does have it's upsides. It's a really clean feeling, for one.
But again, the ingrowns and hassle aren't so worth it. :)
I'm going to post this before I lose my nerve. :)

11:52 am  
Blogger MargieCM said...

Hi Nabonidus! Lovely to see you here, and thanks for adding to this very vital debate. I have no idea why I started it, but random thoughts have to go somewhere.

With you on the ingrowns. Eurgh.

1:04 pm  
Blogger Nabonidus said...

Yep,ingrowns. Yuck. And I admit I have wondered about the "models" that you see with more naturally curly hair! I can't even imagine!
It's funny because it really is a preoccupation here. Ever since I read your post I've been more aware of the literally hundreds of hair removal ads here. There was just a new one on a minute ago about a new prescription cream available over the counter here. A medication to inhibit hair growth- that's how carried away we are in the US, I guess! I don't think this is a good thing, it just plays on the perfect
body image thing, again. As usual.:(

3:45 am  
Blogger Vallypee said...

Hi Margie, just dropping by to thank you for your visits to my blogosphere. I am always so pleased to see your name pop up on my comments as whatever you write always makes me smile.

I'm a bit snowed under at the moment, so am just dipping my toes into blogland now and then to keep up, and add the odd small piece to keep my blog alive, so I am always grateful for your interest, dear Margie. Have a lovely Easter. xxxx

6:38 pm  
Blogger Vallypee said...

PS There's a bit more local colour for you on my WW blog now.

1:46 am  
Blogger Vallypee said...

Just popping by to say hi! Hope all is well with you dear Margie. Not much to tell, even less to sell....just a hi and a bye ;-)

7:30 am  
Blogger Anne-Marie said...

Hi Margie,
I am chiming in late, but I agree with Maria that we are hairless obsessed in the west.

I had a post a few months back about the trend reversal, which is apparently underway in regards to Brazilian waxing- the new trend is to leave a bit of hair, a tuft, or a stripe, instead of the pre-pubescent look. I find the girl look creepy, and can't quite understand why someone would be attracted to a woman who could be mistaken for a girl down there. But that's just me.

10:28 am  
Blogger Koos F said...

Hm
Delicate subject there...
I'm a baby boomer and when i started discovering that I had the interests of a gentleman -makes it sound sooo acceptable- it probably wasn't 'done' to show everything in detail, so the pics I saw were neatly retouched in that area: no labias whatevers and... no hair.
Boy was I surprised when I discovered -much later- what women are like.

Just imagine that the trend of shaving had started earlier. I might never have discovered what the natural state of a woman is.

Compare that to the armpit-situation. If it weren't for German women, who don't shave the armpits, I'd be convinced that only men are hairy under the arms.

8:37 am  

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